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Just starting a clone project and I am going to see what I can gather and fabricate the rest…not looking for perfection, but if any spare parts are floating around and you would be looking to move them on..I would be open to making my wallet a little lighter. I have the fenders secured already so I would be looking at the inner bracing items I can't see in any photos..the header panel is what I'm really looking for…If I cant find it and its a pain to fabricate, I may just try extending the hood…kinda like what ford did with the SVO mustang.

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I would strongly recommend attempting to replicate the header, rather than trying to extend the hood.  Start by studying, photographing and measuring a real one.

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I likely will do just that…but…I work in fiberglass and steel for a living as a mold fabricator in the fiberglass bathtub and shower industry. A few of my co-conspirators are up to the challenge…a good possibility I will still make the hood, and It may wind up as a garage ornament..the boys are motivated to do something different. Again if anybody knows where I can obtain any of the required brackets and misc. parts, I would be in your debt.

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Joe,

Thanks for the phone call yesterday…good talking to you.

You could build a buck and make a fiberglass hood or adding to a steel one would not big that big a deal.

The man I told you about in Fla. is Richard Stroup.. Cell Number 813-817-1963

or e-mail him at Stroupsautobody@verizon.com 

He was making T front fenders , and other parts like the header panel and NASCAR rear spoilers.

Rick Ochs

989-255-6018

Talladegaguru@gmail.comCool

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Thank You Rick…..much appreciated.

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Being that I'm Italian…I think I'm going to call this “Project Talla-Dago”…at least that's what my co-workers are calling it.

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Header panel has been secured…next up is the front bumper…and I have a lead…

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Struck out on the front bumper…going to order some of the front support pieces from a fabricator in Florida…(Richard Stroup) very soon…have a grill in my sights also…

 

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The grill is easy.  There are plenty available.  It was used on Cobras, and other select models of Torino.

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Thanks for the reply Carl..I was going after the grill because its the low hanging fruit…From everything I have inquired about…seems the front bumper is going to be the toughest part to acquire. I may have to take a shot at fabricating it…but in the mean time…no stone shall go unturned..lol

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Joseph,

 

You can easily fabricate a front bumper from a 68 or 69 rear bumper.  You will need to make a template from a real one.  The factory cut a rear bumper into 3 pieces, slightly v'd it, removed a small section from the middle of each side, and then filled the cutouts that are present on a rear bumper to fit around the rear quarters.  Once it has been re-welded, it will need to be ground smooth and re-chromed.

 

I don't have the necessary welding skills; but, the process is really quite simple.  I am fortunate to have friends with the skills that I lack. 

 

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Carl.

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Appreciate the input Carl…pretty much looks like that's exactly what I may have to do…I found a guy here in Pa. that has a bent up rear bumper for $20…I may just buy it as a practice bumper…I'm also thinking about filling in the center of the bumper where the license plate went…and using another finish other than chrome. I guess I must also confess that I'm leaning toward putting a Powerstroke Diesel under the hood. With that said I pretty much have to commit to eliminating the shock towers. So yeah…im looking to make a 69 Talladega Clone with a Nascar flavor on the outside and and throw'n a little coal out the exhaust.

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Joe.

As to the bumper I have a jig I made and have build 3  or 4 front bumpers for different T owners in the past.   Send us a rear  bumper and we will send you back a T bumper  made from yours…..you pay the UPS……

I had a 69 NASCAR bumper off a T and it had a screen over the plate area and on the back side it had an alum box that had tubes  for air ducks too cool the brakes it was a neat set up…. will send you a few pictures soon.Cool

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Almost forgot I have a set of 69 NASCAR headlight doors may-be a grille will check and Holman /Moody templates for the dash lay out I can trace out if your going to do a NASCAR (69) style dash.

As for the Powerstroke …..How about the Cuda that went thru Barrett-Jackson with the diesel in the engine bay ????Surprised

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That would be a huge help Rick…and you have my attention on the nascar headlight doors and possible grill…as for the Diesel Cuda..if it was the Grey Cuda..yes I did see that in a Magazine feature..Once again Thank You Rick for the ideas and input…

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Found the shifter I'm going to use..a company called Kilduff make a automatic shifter like the Lenco and Hurst Lightning Rods…these things are awesome.

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Rick, if you can send me some JPG files of the bumper and duct work I am sure there are others out there who would love to see them. I will post them on the front page.

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I'm all for pictures…help's me a great deal.

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One question I need to ask…are the headlight mounting panels/headlight buckets Talladega specific or are they the same on every 68/69 Torino and Fairlane ? If anyone could shed some light on this, It would be greatly appreciated.

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Just mailed out the money order for most of the inner support structure and bumper arms from Richard Stroup of Spring Hill Florida…next item up is the bumper itself..with some help from Rick Ochs and Nolan Clinard this project is gaining steam.

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  1. HALOWE says:

    My opinion is that if it is on a Marti Report and/or a 999, clearly the pins were factory options. Neither of these reports reflect dealer installed options.

    Oddly, my T has the hood modified on the underside bracing structure (but not cut out on the top of the hood) for a hood pin ON ONLY ONE SIDE! I need to compare to my two ’69 Cobra hoods that have factory hood pins to see what they look like on the underneath. They are stored about 100 miles away from me, so it will be a few weeks before I have that opportunity.

    Also oddly enough, my ’70 Cobra that I’ve owned since ’79 has factory push-and-twist hood pins (standard, not an option), but the radiator support only has a receiver on one side! The other side has dimples where the two holes should have been drilled to mount the receiver, but it was never done.

    • Carl Sharp says:

      As you can see from the Talladega Forum, on this site, we really don’t believe that hood pins were an option on any of the production Talladegas (at least from the factory). I refer you to the response by Rich Ochs (and others) on this topic which has been addressed pretty thoroughly in the forum. The instructions to the factory were very clear that these cars were NOT to get hood pins.

      As to the validity of Ford’s 999 reports, and the Marti reports (especially the early ones), I wouldn’t be too confident in either of them. Both have contained numerous “major” errors. For example, Ford’s 999 report often refers to our Talladegas as Mustangs. Likewise, all of the early Marti reports assumed that the same rules that applied to Mustangs also applied to our Talladegas. (Not true.)

      • ROB HUNT says:

        I agree the Ford 999 reports were very vague. I had a 4.30 Drag pack car I tried to document back in 2000. The 999 said it was an R code with optional rear axle lol.

  2. ron woshner says:

    looks like there may be a cyclone gt- 500 on e bay.

  3. christian sherman says:

    Just picked up a Gurney!!! Barn fresh!!! LITERALLY

  4. Terry Butler says:

    Why does the article say the bumper was flipped upside down?

    • Carl Sharp says:

      Mostly, because the author made a mistake… It was not flipped. It was sectioned on both sides, v-d in the middle, and filled on the ends.

  5. Greg Klinke says:

    Trying to repaint my headlight bezels and front grill black. Took some “before” pictures, but you know how that goes. Was wondering if someone could take some close-up pics so I can get it painted correctly. Thanks

  6. Randolph Dolensek says:

    Hi Everyone,I am going to have my Dan Spoiler II painted & the body shop wants something to show him the paint design.Is there anything drawn that I can give him? Thanks Randy

  7. Randolph Dolensek says:

    My Dan is getting painted today! Pretty exciting after having it for 9 years.

  8. Mike Hendricks says:

    I have a 69 Torino GT I converted to a Talladega back in 1975. I bought the car in 1975. I had a customer of mine who owned who had an orginal T, and wrecked it by a deer running in front of him. He removed the front end, and put a Torino front end on it. He gave me the front end for free. The only piece I had to replace was the left front fender. I went to my local Ford dealer, and bought one. They ordered it from Ford. It has H/M stamped on the fender lip. I believe it cost around $250.00 at the time.
    I still have the orginal fender which was not all that bad. Back them, it was cheaper to buy a new fender, than to repair.
    I still own the car, and deive it in the summers. I have the car apart noe, and am repainting it with Whimbleton white. I put in it an AOD transmission for better fuel. The engine is a 351, which rebuilt in the 80’s. It is in excellant shape, as I always garaged it. I repersent it as a clone, not as a real T. 99% of people do not know of a Talladega, never heard of them.
    Ihave owner Talladega’s over the years, and have sold them, all except for my clone. It was always less expensive to drive. I enjoy it.

    • Richard says:

      Mke, thank you for your comments. Interesting story on the Talladega front end. By chance do you know the VIN of the Talladega that got the Torino nose? What city as it in and what color was it?

      As for your car I encourage you to Register it in our Talladega Registry as a Clone. We already have one clone Spoiler II registered. It hels insure the no one in the future will try to sell the car s the real deal. I also want to thank you for becoming a Team Member and invite you to bring your car to any of our Talladega Family Reunion events or other activities.

      • Mike Hendricks says:

        Richard, the orginial T, where I got the front end, was Royal Maroon. I do not have the orginal VIN. The city is Fort Wayne, Indiana. I remember seeing the T at a local Ford dealer in New Haven, Indiana. The dealer at that time was Delagrange Ford in New Haven. They sold the car new in, if I remember right, late 1969, around September, or October.The car was around Ft. Wayne for a couple years, and the orginal ownerof the car decided to quit driving it, because the water pump was getting noisy, if I remember right. It sat behind a local bowling alley for quiet a long time. I tried to buy it, and he was not sure if he wanted to sell. I checked with him for several months, to no avail. I stopped in one night, bought him a beer, and he said to see him tomorrow. I went to hopefully buy the car, and he sold it to a customer of mine. Not sure why, but it was gone. The guy who bought it was only 16, maybe 17. I knew what was going to happen, and it did. First a deer, then after he repaired it, he lost controll and crashed it for the final time. The insurance co. totaled it, they halled it off, and sold it for junk would be my guess. He did not know where it went, and I did not persue it. Coulda, shoulda, wooda?? The price we had talked about was $2500. at the time. I lost track of him over the years. The last time I saw him he had another 428 Cobra, 69 Torino. But this has been 74-75, so it has been long gone.
        I have, and will look again for any I D on the parts. The only numbers/letters are date codes on some parts.
        I can send pictures of the orginal fender, in it orginal color, with white stripe. Any other parts and the entire car I could send pix also.
        I will register my car as a clone in the registry, so it cannot be declaired a factory T. I will look foreward to joining you in future events, and reunions. Any other info I can think of I will supply. Any other items you would like to know, just ask.
        Thank you,

        Mike

  9. Joseph Trapani says:

    Hello everyone, im looking for Rick Ores site and cant find it, I talked to Rick about selling my T 7 years ago, and just count do it, well im 55 now and had it in heated garage since 1976 when I bought it, drove it 4000 miles since 76, 192193, I had some nice offers on ot since it is just about original as I bought it , and runs well, drivers seat split just like I bought it, I wanted to call Rick to give it a good home, it needs paint but paint is good for 40 years old, it is very special to me and is a very rare find today and back in 1976 when I bought it,has stock ex on it yet,loltrunk mat spare,Funny thing about the car is LW Miller II I bought it from, and his son LW III married Kelly Eharnhart , I bought it from Wayne LWs Dad so Wayne could put Brett Bodine in his first Modified ride, This car has History I Cant tell you on the internet!As Brett or Jeff Bodine about it
    I want a good home for it I bought it in 76 , and still has the life in it to last another 40 years,one solid original car.
    My father and I took it to Talladega reunion in 1989 and have lots of pics of it there , dam thing looks the same as it did back then and runs just as well
    Joe T
    And Wayne will vogue for me,

  10. Joseph Trapani says:

    im ready in the next month to sell my T and will set up a pic account if anyone is interested,
    ive known the car since 1971, bought it in 1976, just changed Title from my father name to mine Dads 80 years young to me, my Dad gave me the money to buy a car when I grad from HS, in 1976, T had 41700 on T and has 48522 miles on it now, same shap as I bought it, a good 3-to a 2
    You will not find a better T to make your own,
    jtrapani@rocketmail.com, ask Rick Orrs
    now do I ebay it?
    Really?
    What a investment
    Joe T

  11. Mark says:

    I found a Cale Yarborough special in va beach in a back yard I was wondering if it is registered or if any body knows of it

    • Richard says:

      I would be happy to help you but I need the VIN to find any info on it. It will be located on the dashboard just behind the windshield on the driver side.

  12. Scott Springer says:

    my T on ebay

  13. Joe Machado says:

    I have been collecting serial numbers since the 69 Daytona was new. I have a serial number book for both Talladega’s and SpoilerII’s. I also collected the other 3 cars: Daytona, SuperBird and the 69 500. I would need a specific individual to send the info to and they have the understanding that the info is free to your members-events. I owned a Daytona 18 years. I also owned 3 69 500’s. One of the 500’s was THE Public Relations car, the HEMI 500 in red with white interior and white stripe. The owner that restored the HEMI changed the interior to black. WRONG. My Daytona was one of 2 Daytonas used as Dodge Performance Show Cars.

  14. Richard Wager says:

    subject (how many talladegas) Has anyone seen youtube American muscle car #S02E03 ford fairlane gt and Talladega it runs for 22:35 min. total, at 11:16 to 11:27 min. Ralph Moody states that less than not even 500 were made.
    Interesting to say the least and kinda dispels the 754 number wonder if that helps with anyone’s research

  15. gerald hege says:

    I have a question in regards to part numbers C7ZZ-9B445-C and C9ZZ-9B445-A
    ( Exhaust Air supply Manifold Assembly for 1969 Talladega 428. Mine are leaking and i was wondering if it is possible to find a replacement or should I remove the system or plug off the rails?

  16. sven busch says:

    Hello there, did someone know where I can get some lowering parts for my spoiler?

  17. David Miller says:

    I am looking for the correct linkage for my 390 4brl. When I got the car it had a cheap after market carb and a Mickey mouse cable system. I have tried several vendors to no avail. Hoping maybe some one has one on a spare car or engine, at this point even a good picture with measurements would work and I will fabricate the rest. Thanks Munch

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