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Ok,FAB QUEST front suspension is on its way, coming from California so it we be here by next Friday. Picked up a good pair of wire crimpers(Klein), a wire stripper and some heat shrink, butt connectors, and some other assorted electrical items. Looking at a wirining kit from a company called KWIK, 14 circuit. By any chance does anybody know how much DynaMat is needed to do the interior of a Torino?

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All the front end parts have arrived, ordered the main wire harness kit from a company called “keep it clean”. Still waiting on the header panel and inner support pieces from Richard Stroup…starting to get a little worried, its been months.

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Ok…looks like ill start getting down to brass tacks when I return from the Ocean City MD. Car Cruise this coming weekend…take a look at what is new and steal a few ideas. 

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Only a few Torino's at the OC car cruise…Not much to report…making additional space in the garage for the Torino disassembly. Also need to get a few tires that actually hold air…also need to make an extension cord for a 220 welder… they are going to let me borrow one from work, just have to convert that also to 220. Once the front crossmember is welded in, I will not need as much help from friends. The project would have been further along but circumstances dictated that My wife and I take custody of our 4 year old grandson. I will have a little less time for the Torino, but its a sacrifice will would make every time. But I will finish the Torino come hell or high water. My Goal is to have it completely done by the time the Ocean City MD car show in May 2019…Fifty Year Anniv. for the 69 Torino.

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Get  that little grandson out in the shop, they never to young or old to know a 1/2 inch from a monkey wrench……………..LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Only problem with that Rick is that he would probably bury the tool's under the deck somewhere with the Tonka backhoe and Dump truck. He has a tendency to walk off with stuff, especially ratchets.

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Only have to get one more 14 inch tire, and I can move the Torino to the garage…when the transporter dropped the car off, only one tire held air…one wheel was off a ford ranger and the other 3 were what looked like snow tires from the 1970's. the car came from Louisiana, so go figure. Snapping up used or free 14's, since I will be using larger wheels in the future. She will soon roll freely.

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Right now I'm just sandblasting bumper brackets and chasing after my 5 year grandson. Looking forward to the Fairlane meet in York, Pa. just 13 miles from my house.

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Had a great time..all be it a little short, but none the less a great time at the Fairlane Club meet in York Pa. I had the honor of meeting Carl Sharp (Jr. and Sr.) great people and forthcoming with information. I did ask a lot of questions pertaining to the Talladega. I also met Mark Shilladay at the event, another great guy who answered any question I had. Both had awesome looking cars. There was a third Talladega but I did not get to meet the guy or get his name. His Talladega had the bumpers painted to match the body color and the car had a NASCAR flavor to it. I did take some pic's of other cars but I was there to see the Dega's. Seeing one in person gave me a motivating boost…

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Joe,

 

It was great meeting you and I look forward to seeing your completed clone project!

 

Carl.

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Same here Joe, glad to have met you ad look forward to seeing your project to fruition.  The third Talladega owner is Wayne (also from PA).  His car has got to be the deal of the year.  Though not completely correct it has some of the goodies we wish we could have gotten on our T's including a 4 speed and bucket seats.  

Cya,

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Well its been awhile since I was on here last…I managed to pick up a low mileage 351 Cleveland, so I guess that will be the motor I go with…too good a deal to pass up…as far as everything else, I have hit a major road block. The guy (Richard Stroup) that was going to fabricate the Talladega header panel, bumper brackets, and inner panels has failed to ship me any parts at all after paying him up front in January. Its been close to 9 months and he keeps stringing me along, sending me pictures of boxes on a table ready for shipping, yet every time he promise's to ship, nothing arrives. I have probably seen the last of that money, being its hard to file a civil complaint 1000 miles from you house. I'm going to go ahead with making the fenders, may just have to wing it on the header panel and the rest of the stuff…I can do other stuff until I have a decision to make.

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Some movement on the parts…after asking for my money to be returned and the hint of legal action, I was texted 2 ups tracking numbers for the Talladega parts. They checked out as real, and delivery will be on Tuesday. 

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Most of the Talladega parts Richard Stroup made for me have arrived, one more box is on its way…

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Hello. My name is Mike, I am Joe’s brother it’s is with great sadness to say my brother was killed by a drunk driver on January 15. I am going to finish his torino talladega project as a memorial to him. Read through this post several times and am trying to find parts at his house to see what he has. Hope I can count on this form for info and advice to finish this, it going too take a long time to get over this,the lowlife that killed my brother was 5 times the legal limit and will not get what he deserves but finishing his car will be good therapy for me. Looking forward to talking to you all. Thanks Mike Zito

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Mike,

I am sorry to find this out……Just talked to Joe about Christmas time and just finished drawing out some template block off head light plates, Yesterday, I was going to send him with some head light cover disks I have from Holman/Moody.
Please give me a call @ 989-255-6018 or e-mail me at :Talladegaguru@gmail.com.
I have some other parts Joe and I talked about, any parts you need if I have it extra….it is your’s for the Talladega project…..Evenings best time to call.

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This is terrible news. This group is one big family. Unfortunately, many of us have never met each other in person but we are a family never the less. I am so sorry for your loss and, like any family, I am sure any Member on this site will be happy to help you in any way possible. Contact me at rfleener@comcast.net and I will set you up with a free Team Membership to this site. In some small way this may help you complete your brother’s car.

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thanks Richard and Rick.it will take some time to get things together. I had a hard time reading all his posts on this project as it brought tears to my eyes, we were vary close. We worked side by side for the better part of 30years I have found a temp spot for the car as my garage is full with 69 Camaro that is done well never done and 67 Chevelle, I will be new to the ford family as my brother was a big ford guy. looks like the hard part will be the fender extensions, My brother bought some fiberglass extensions but did not open them, the one has real bad heat distortion on the top. do not like fiberglass fenders idea.would much rather go with metal. Is Mr Stroup the only one fabing this part and has anyone seen his work. thanks Mike

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Give me a call if your making the NASCAR headlight stuff..i’d be interested in seeing that set up.
I am near Philly…. actually in rural south Jersey ( yes its different than North Jersey)
I can certainly weld and fabricate and have lots of cohorts who do the same if you need some help.
I need a nose and you need a bumper hmmmmm

call me at 267- 804-6999 I will answer if I can,texting is fine.

Regards,
Frank Durso

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Frank,
I was making some templates out of poster board for Joe and I have a few of the round alum headlight covers that cover the holes where the head lights would be in a factory car …cover’s were from Holman/Moody. The templates were to block off open space between the headlights in the Talladega grill on the race cars…….He stated he wanted to go for that look. When I bought a mess of Talladega race front end parts from a sale here in Mich………I got an Alum head light door and a set of blocked off doors that had been on a race Talladega that Benny Parson drove. The patterns are on this site as they were shown in one of the old Speedway News letters …also there is a picture of just some of the parts I got that day on this site. I traded some of the parts for NOS factory parts for the street T’s……I was about to mail Joe the templates when I read the news…I have talked to Mike (Joe”s brother) on the phone and he is to send info where to send the parts as he is going to finish the car.
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  1. HALOWE says:

    My opinion is that if it is on a Marti Report and/or a 999, clearly the pins were factory options. Neither of these reports reflect dealer installed options.

    Oddly, my T has the hood modified on the underside bracing structure (but not cut out on the top of the hood) for a hood pin ON ONLY ONE SIDE! I need to compare to my two ’69 Cobra hoods that have factory hood pins to see what they look like on the underneath. They are stored about 100 miles away from me, so it will be a few weeks before I have that opportunity.

    Also oddly enough, my ’70 Cobra that I’ve owned since ’79 has factory push-and-twist hood pins (standard, not an option), but the radiator support only has a receiver on one side! The other side has dimples where the two holes should have been drilled to mount the receiver, but it was never done.

    • Carl Sharp says:

      As you can see from the Talladega Forum, on this site, we really don’t believe that hood pins were an option on any of the production Talladegas (at least from the factory). I refer you to the response by Rich Ochs (and others) on this topic which has been addressed pretty thoroughly in the forum. The instructions to the factory were very clear that these cars were NOT to get hood pins.

      As to the validity of Ford’s 999 reports, and the Marti reports (especially the early ones), I wouldn’t be too confident in either of them. Both have contained numerous “major” errors. For example, Ford’s 999 report often refers to our Talladegas as Mustangs. Likewise, all of the early Marti reports assumed that the same rules that applied to Mustangs also applied to our Talladegas. (Not true.)

      • ROB HUNT says:

        I agree the Ford 999 reports were very vague. I had a 4.30 Drag pack car I tried to document back in 2000. The 999 said it was an R code with optional rear axle lol.

  2. ron woshner says:

    looks like there may be a cyclone gt- 500 on e bay.

  3. christian sherman says:

    Just picked up a Gurney!!! Barn fresh!!! LITERALLY

  4. Terry Butler says:

    Why does the article say the bumper was flipped upside down?

    • Carl Sharp says:

      Mostly, because the author made a mistake… It was not flipped. It was sectioned on both sides, v-d in the middle, and filled on the ends.

  5. Greg Klinke says:

    Trying to repaint my headlight bezels and front grill black. Took some “before” pictures, but you know how that goes. Was wondering if someone could take some close-up pics so I can get it painted correctly. Thanks

  6. Randolph Dolensek says:

    Hi Everyone,I am going to have my Dan Spoiler II painted & the body shop wants something to show him the paint design.Is there anything drawn that I can give him? Thanks Randy

  7. Randolph Dolensek says:

    My Dan is getting painted today! Pretty exciting after having it for 9 years.

  8. Mike Hendricks says:

    I have a 69 Torino GT I converted to a Talladega back in 1975. I bought the car in 1975. I had a customer of mine who owned who had an orginal T, and wrecked it by a deer running in front of him. He removed the front end, and put a Torino front end on it. He gave me the front end for free. The only piece I had to replace was the left front fender. I went to my local Ford dealer, and bought one. They ordered it from Ford. It has H/M stamped on the fender lip. I believe it cost around $250.00 at the time.
    I still have the orginal fender which was not all that bad. Back them, it was cheaper to buy a new fender, than to repair.
    I still own the car, and deive it in the summers. I have the car apart noe, and am repainting it with Whimbleton white. I put in it an AOD transmission for better fuel. The engine is a 351, which rebuilt in the 80’s. It is in excellant shape, as I always garaged it. I repersent it as a clone, not as a real T. 99% of people do not know of a Talladega, never heard of them.
    Ihave owner Talladega’s over the years, and have sold them, all except for my clone. It was always less expensive to drive. I enjoy it.

    • Richard says:

      Mke, thank you for your comments. Interesting story on the Talladega front end. By chance do you know the VIN of the Talladega that got the Torino nose? What city as it in and what color was it?

      As for your car I encourage you to Register it in our Talladega Registry as a Clone. We already have one clone Spoiler II registered. It hels insure the no one in the future will try to sell the car s the real deal. I also want to thank you for becoming a Team Member and invite you to bring your car to any of our Talladega Family Reunion events or other activities.

      • Mike Hendricks says:

        Richard, the orginial T, where I got the front end, was Royal Maroon. I do not have the orginal VIN. The city is Fort Wayne, Indiana. I remember seeing the T at a local Ford dealer in New Haven, Indiana. The dealer at that time was Delagrange Ford in New Haven. They sold the car new in, if I remember right, late 1969, around September, or October.The car was around Ft. Wayne for a couple years, and the orginal ownerof the car decided to quit driving it, because the water pump was getting noisy, if I remember right. It sat behind a local bowling alley for quiet a long time. I tried to buy it, and he was not sure if he wanted to sell. I checked with him for several months, to no avail. I stopped in one night, bought him a beer, and he said to see him tomorrow. I went to hopefully buy the car, and he sold it to a customer of mine. Not sure why, but it was gone. The guy who bought it was only 16, maybe 17. I knew what was going to happen, and it did. First a deer, then after he repaired it, he lost controll and crashed it for the final time. The insurance co. totaled it, they halled it off, and sold it for junk would be my guess. He did not know where it went, and I did not persue it. Coulda, shoulda, wooda?? The price we had talked about was $2500. at the time. I lost track of him over the years. The last time I saw him he had another 428 Cobra, 69 Torino. But this has been 74-75, so it has been long gone.
        I have, and will look again for any I D on the parts. The only numbers/letters are date codes on some parts.
        I can send pictures of the orginal fender, in it orginal color, with white stripe. Any other parts and the entire car I could send pix also.
        I will register my car as a clone in the registry, so it cannot be declaired a factory T. I will look foreward to joining you in future events, and reunions. Any other info I can think of I will supply. Any other items you would like to know, just ask.
        Thank you,

        Mike

  9. Joseph Trapani says:

    Hello everyone, im looking for Rick Ores site and cant find it, I talked to Rick about selling my T 7 years ago, and just count do it, well im 55 now and had it in heated garage since 1976 when I bought it, drove it 4000 miles since 76, 192193, I had some nice offers on ot since it is just about original as I bought it , and runs well, drivers seat split just like I bought it, I wanted to call Rick to give it a good home, it needs paint but paint is good for 40 years old, it is very special to me and is a very rare find today and back in 1976 when I bought it,has stock ex on it yet,loltrunk mat spare,Funny thing about the car is LW Miller II I bought it from, and his son LW III married Kelly Eharnhart , I bought it from Wayne LWs Dad so Wayne could put Brett Bodine in his first Modified ride, This car has History I Cant tell you on the internet!As Brett or Jeff Bodine about it
    I want a good home for it I bought it in 76 , and still has the life in it to last another 40 years,one solid original car.
    My father and I took it to Talladega reunion in 1989 and have lots of pics of it there , dam thing looks the same as it did back then and runs just as well
    Joe T
    And Wayne will vogue for me,

  10. Joseph Trapani says:

    im ready in the next month to sell my T and will set up a pic account if anyone is interested,
    ive known the car since 1971, bought it in 1976, just changed Title from my father name to mine Dads 80 years young to me, my Dad gave me the money to buy a car when I grad from HS, in 1976, T had 41700 on T and has 48522 miles on it now, same shap as I bought it, a good 3-to a 2
    You will not find a better T to make your own,
    jtrapani@rocketmail.com, ask Rick Orrs
    now do I ebay it?
    Really?
    What a investment
    Joe T

  11. Mark says:

    I found a Cale Yarborough special in va beach in a back yard I was wondering if it is registered or if any body knows of it

    • Richard says:

      I would be happy to help you but I need the VIN to find any info on it. It will be located on the dashboard just behind the windshield on the driver side.

  12. Scott Springer says:

    my T on ebay

  13. Joe Machado says:

    I have been collecting serial numbers since the 69 Daytona was new. I have a serial number book for both Talladega’s and SpoilerII’s. I also collected the other 3 cars: Daytona, SuperBird and the 69 500. I would need a specific individual to send the info to and they have the understanding that the info is free to your members-events. I owned a Daytona 18 years. I also owned 3 69 500’s. One of the 500’s was THE Public Relations car, the HEMI 500 in red with white interior and white stripe. The owner that restored the HEMI changed the interior to black. WRONG. My Daytona was one of 2 Daytonas used as Dodge Performance Show Cars.

  14. Richard Wager says:

    subject (how many talladegas) Has anyone seen youtube American muscle car #S02E03 ford fairlane gt and Talladega it runs for 22:35 min. total, at 11:16 to 11:27 min. Ralph Moody states that less than not even 500 were made.
    Interesting to say the least and kinda dispels the 754 number wonder if that helps with anyone’s research

  15. gerald hege says:

    I have a question in regards to part numbers C7ZZ-9B445-C and C9ZZ-9B445-A
    ( Exhaust Air supply Manifold Assembly for 1969 Talladega 428. Mine are leaking and i was wondering if it is possible to find a replacement or should I remove the system or plug off the rails?

  16. sven busch says:

    Hello there, did someone know where I can get some lowering parts for my spoiler?

  17. David Miller says:

    I am looking for the correct linkage for my 390 4brl. When I got the car it had a cheap after market carb and a Mickey mouse cable system. I have tried several vendors to no avail. Hoping maybe some one has one on a spare car or engine, at this point even a good picture with measurements would work and I will fabricate the rest. Thanks Munch

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